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 <title>User-friendly, High compatibility but low requirements</title>
 <link>http://www.nodalpoint.org/2008/05/03/introducing_the_eyelims_project#comment-4448</link>
 <description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Neil, &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And thanks for your interest in the project. I fixed the mistake in &quot;invaluable&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I also completely agree on the facts that:&lt;br /&gt;
- we need a free open source Laboratory Information Management System&lt;br /&gt;
- to be adopted, it needs to be user-friendly, cross-platform, highly compatible with existing open source solutions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I had that in mind when I joined the eyeOS team, three years ago and I always kept it in mind during eyeOS development. And it is because eyeOS fits these needs that I really think it provides the perfect platform for a LIMS:&lt;br /&gt;
- For users, eyeOS provides a really intuitive and user-friendly desktop-like environment, accessible from anywhere.&lt;br /&gt;
- For developers, eyeOS provides a complete Toolkit and set of libraries to easily and quickly develop new eyeOS applications.&lt;br /&gt;
- For network manager, eyeOS has very low requirements. It only needs PHP and XML (javascript being provided by the navigator). It does NOT require a MySQL (or other) database or a Java server (such as Tomcat). For this reason, it can be installed on any basic hosting plan. However, it allows the easy integration of Flash (swf), Java applets or MySQL applications. Importantly, it constitutes a secured platform to store and share documents with a Virtual File System controlling the user access to files.       &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To conclude, the last but not the least, eyeOS is Free and Open Source. To my knowledge, it is unique. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hope you will take time to discover this platform and agree with me on its potential. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best regards, &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Alexandre&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eyeLIMS.com&quot; title=&quot;www.eyeLIMS.com&quot;&gt;www.eyeLIMS.com&lt;/a&gt; - Free Open Source Laboratory Information Management System powered by eyeOS&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 17:37:22 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>amejat</dc:creator>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;provides an unvaluable system&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;*Invaluable*, surely.  I hope?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ll be interested to see how this develops:  the research world is in desperate need of a quality, open-source LIMS.  However, I&#039;m concerned that this LIMS is tied to an existing product.  Everyone has a web browser, but not everyone will want to sign up for eyeOS and learn how to use it.  A true web application is something more like Google Documents, where you just open a page and start work.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Remember, biologists will look for any excuse not to learn how to use an application; you need to keep the entry barrier as low as possible.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 02:55:35 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
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 <link>http://www.nodalpoint.org/2007/11/30/burn_semantic_web_burn#comment-4370</link>
 <description>&lt;p&gt;I came across this old thread, and thought I&#039;d point out that these days SNPedia does have the sacred RDFs thanks to the semantic-mediawiki.org extension. Today the most obvious benefit is that the &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.snpedia.com/index.php?title=SNPedia:FAQ&#039;&gt;SNPedia:FAQ&lt;/a&gt; is able to maintain some live counts about the site. The RDFs aren&#039;t yet connected to any others, but one baby step at a time it looks a bit more semantic. It seems only a matter of time until it can leverage SPARQL and perhaps the Halo browser.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:45:40 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>cariaso</dc:creator>
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 <title>What, exactly, is the point of Elsevier?</title>
 <link>http://www.nodalpoint.org/2007/09/05/semantic_biomedical_mashups_with_connotea#comment-4365</link>
 <description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve been waiting for this special issue on semantic biomedical mashups for a while now. The latest scheduled production date is &lt;b&gt;September 2008&lt;/b&gt;, which makes it exactly &lt;b&gt;one whole year&lt;/b&gt; from Call for papers to publication. Damn thats quick, faster than a speeding glacier! Those hot hot research results must be popping of the printing press at an alarming rate!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Which makes me wonder, what, exactly is the point of Elsevier? Why does it take them so long to publish? Some, in the Open-Access publishing community have suggested this kind of publishing is a slow and expensive way to assign copyright to information that should be in the public domain, while lining shareholders pockets. As a young scientist, I&#039;m completey baffled as to why it should take this long to shuffle a few emails and Word documents around the internet in order to publish.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyway, enough of the griping. Every now and then, a pre-print pops up in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://eutils.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/eutils/erss.cgi?rss_guid=0F80awgVnb02hBBPABCt_HlNLmkFGewu6Ep2kiU__8N&quot;&gt;Journal of Biomedical informatics feed from PubMed&lt;/a&gt;.  So while you&#039;re waiting for Elsevier, you can read one of the first papers in the special issue below.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Carole Goble and Robert Stevens (year unknown) &lt;a href=&quot;http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.jbi.2008.01.008&quot;&gt;State of the nation in data integration for bioinformatics&lt;/a&gt;, Journal of Biomedical Informatics, officially published sometime before the heat-death of the Universe (but don&#039;t hold your breath). &lt;a href=&quot;http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.jbi.2008.01.008&quot;&gt;DOI:10.1016/j.jbi.2008.01.008&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://pubmed.gov/18358788&quot;&gt;pubmed.gov/18358788&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 07:26:07 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator>
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 <title>BioBlogs 19: Bioengineering is here...</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;So &lt;a href=&quot;http://duncan.hull.name/2008/03/07/bioblogs-19-bioengineering/&quot;&gt;Bio::Blogs 19, the Bioengineering issue is out&lt;/a&gt;. Enjoy!&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 05:18:49 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator>
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 <title>Bioblogs: This is your last chance</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;so if you&#039;re planning on sending anything to bioblogs /ate/ gmail.com for the latest issue of bio::blogs please do so now...&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:28:00 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator>
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 <title>Free access to NSNPAS in PubMedCentral?</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Nature&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;Science&lt;/i&gt; and OUP &lt;i&gt;Bioinformatics&lt;/i&gt; are all absent from this &lt;a href=&quot;http://publicaccess.nih.gov/submit_process_journals.htm&quot;&gt;NIH list of Journals That Submit Articles To PubMed Central&lt;/a&gt;, more details from &lt;a href=&quot;http://hublog.hubmed.org/archives/001596.html&quot;&gt;alf on hublog&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Talking of PubMedCentral, if you haven&#039;t seen it already &lt;a href=&quot;http://dx.doi.org/10.1126/science.1060273&quot;&gt;Building a GenBank of the Published Literature&lt;/a&gt; published in &lt;i&gt;Science&lt;/i&gt; back in 2001 is an interesting read, along with the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11269300&quot;&gt;responses tracked in PubMed&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 04:12:22 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, need to update my blog...&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:47:42 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>ejain</dc:creator>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;At 700 a pop for an Action Figure?&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:18:11 -0500</pubDate>
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 <title>Dude, Where&#039;s My NAR?</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Hello Maximillian, I wasn&#039;t attacking NAR, was just wondering about what proportion of the data is dead. It is an interesting technical challenge to find this out. It would also be useful to measure the cost of gathering noisy, redundant and poorly understood data in terms of wasted resources (people, time, money, computers, false positives etc). Perhaps somebody has done something like this already? Especially with all the irresponsible sequencing just for sake of it that goes on...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for the physicists, I mentioned them for comparison. Like you, I doubt they will use 100% of their data either, but will probably use much more of it. However, they keep &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newscientist.com/channel/fundamentals/mg19426103.300-particle-smasher-aims-for-may-2008-switchon.html&quot;&gt;delaying switching their big machine on&lt;/a&gt;, which means they are still waiting for the data. That is, unless when they finally flip the switch on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider&quot;&gt;LHC&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://popsci.typepad.com/popsci/2007/07/the-large-hadro.html&quot;&gt;we all disappear into a black hole&lt;/a&gt;, tombs and all :)&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:09:27 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator>
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 <title>It doesn&#039;t matter, they got published</title>
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 <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Does it matter that large quantities of this data will probably never be used?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Probably not, as their authors are already happy enough to have those published, and then they can &lt;strike&gt;stop mantaining&lt;/strike&gt; move on to another &lt;strike&gt;project&lt;/strike&gt; publication. It is indeed a sad state of affairs.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 06:46:50 -0500</pubDate>
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 <title>Swiss Prot Databases / Action Figures</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Eric, yeah even more redundancy there. Talking of SWISS Prot people, I&#039;m just wondering when your &lt;a href=&quot;http://eric.jain.name/2007/12/04/amos-bairoch-action-figure/&quot;&gt;Amos Bairoch action figure&lt;/a&gt; will be available in shops?!?! What are you up to now that you&#039;ve moved on from SWISS Prot to Seattle?&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:12:33 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;:)&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 07:35:03 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator>
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 <title>Why NAR</title>
 <link>http://www.nodalpoint.org/2008/01/18/one_thousand_databases_high_and_rising#comment-4328</link>
 <description>&lt;p&gt;I add the usual defense of the NAR databases: At least they are indexed by pubmed, so as there are biologists that are not used to checking in google if there are websites about their subject, they will find them quicker via NAR. The data is not dead,  websites can always be exported. (I&#039;ve made the experience that for smaller databses it&#039;s usually quicker to scrape the data from an html page with something like HTTP::Recorder than writing to the person responsible for the data to send you an sql dump.) In addition, people get papers for their databases like this and other people can cite the database properly, so NAR makes the web citable and advances someone&#039;s career a little bit. It already eases the transition from a traditional paper-based science to a more web-orientated world. Databases are peer-reviewed, so they don&#039;t contain complete crap, a paper in NAR assures some minimal quality. And a write-only database is better than none at all, at least someone has collected something and you can scrape it from its tomb.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I would just love to see a minimal requirement for a publication in NAR: They should all offer some simple text-based export, e.g. tab-delimited flatfiles. That could save me a lot of time...  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course, large quantities of these data are never used and never read. But, heck, this is research, right? 90% will not be used in the end. It&#039;s not too different from those 500 alignments algorithms, 200 genomic analyses, hundreds of papers that describe &quot;new&quot; cloning strategies, yet another new gene, etc.  I don&#039;t believe that the physisists use 100% of their 1,5 GB / sec either.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:59:14 -0500</pubDate>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Also, think of all the redundant effort that goes into setting up the basic technical infrastructure each database needs (data storage, user interfaces etc)...&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:12:16 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>ejain</dc:creator>
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